2. engcompany [ SA + AFRICA + EUROPE ]
3. pillage_idiot [ ind ]
4. laddername_paco [ reported loss ]
[teams] Pillage took Indonesia, eng took SA+AFR, i around it, BEFORE eng eliminated me he already stated to invade indonesia. We knew black was weak because he constantly put his armies in the frontline. So he took me out, now holding Europe, SA AND AFR. I saw the whole map and knew it would end this turn so i stated publicaly: (so not even secret) that there were only 5 left. The game WOULD end NOW in Eng’s turn. And also: in all the team-games i played NEVER has a beaten partner stopped giving information, there are also no specific rules for team-games. Pillage was angry that i stated this (or another reason) and quit the game accusing me of cheating. IF I WANTED TO CHEAT I WOULD’VE CHATTED PERSONALLY WITH ENGCOMPANY. ofcourse the game would’ve ended right now, this was so very clear, only a few 1′s left in NA and ASIA and Eng getting still an extra 3 cards to turn in. But please put your comments on the wall about it.
So here’s a summary to clear things out:
1. Eng had SA+AFR+EUR ! | Paco only 1′s in NA and Asia | Pill only 1′s + 1*5 in Indonesia (2*1 in Asia)
2. We knew this , black put all in frontline.
3. Before taking me out we discussed it and Eng gave me his plan: taking me out and with this armies killing black in indonesia
4. I was killed
5. And indeed saw the game would’ve been over in this, eng’s, turn
6. so i stated ‘only 5 left rest 1′s’ not to Eng personally, because i thought noone would accuse me of cheating, if i wanted to cheat i’d secretaly talked to Eng.
7. Pillage immediately went way angry and left the game, accusing me of cheating
8. Paco reported his loss
9. Here is my opinion: the game was already over but this was a good chance to quit it, and i think pillage should report his loss.
Next to this : have u EVER played a teamgame where u were killed and then stopped speaking to your partner about the board ??? No one i know has.
By the way : Paco is a great guy to report his loss.
put your comments on the wall
This is the mail Eng sent to both Pillage and Cases:
this is what i sent to cases for a no report
I played in a team game between pillage_idi0t and ladernam_paco versus myself and edelwater. We were in a good position to win the game when I killed off my partner for his cards. After he was gone edelwater told me what the opposition had on a country. Pillage said we were cheating and left the game. I was about to take out his remaining armies when he left. He complained that edelwater should not tell me anything because his armies were gone. I have played in many team games, and the team members always talk even if one is eliminated. Furthermore Pillage hosted the game and did not place a rule stating this in the settings.
This is a copy of what I emailed Pillage:
“please report the team loss, i am sorry you feel that it was cheating. but it wasn’t. there was no reference to dead man chat in the settings before the game started. and i was going to attack au that turn reguardless.
This is a copy of his reply:
“Not a chance buddy… Cant see that happening… your buddy edle blew that… The only thing I would even consider reporting is that you and your friend there cheat… The only thing that I know for sure is that its not gonna happen…”
I know we were not cheating as this was a TEAM game and that dead men no chat was not stated in rules before game in settings, every team game i have EVER been in the teams continue to discuss despite the elimination of 1 player. Also ladernam_paco, Pillage’s partner reported the loss, because his partner left and it was obvious we had the upper hand in the game.
thanks for your time.
And here is the reply from the op from cases (firehand)
Hello thanks for your E-mail. Your Dispute isnt very easy to answer. What I would do if just drop it .You got 1 report out of a game you.Probly would have won.And Just try to make sure before starting team games to state in Game room before start. That dead players can or can talk . I hope that helps .If not let me Know. As I said your Dispute isnt Cut and dry. If I was playing you .I might have been made as well But I wasnt there so can be sure .